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Gordana Biernat: The Robert Irvine Magazine Interview

Gordana Biernat is a speaker and author who has been named to Oprah’s SuperSoul 100—a list of “awakened leaders who are using their voices and talent to elevate humanity”. If that sounds lofty and vague right now, it won’t once you sit down to read our interview with Biernat, who appears on the list alongside the likes of Tony Robbins, Deepak Chopra, and Eckhart Tolle. Biernat seems almost impervious to negativity, speaks with kindness and compassion, and offers hope and direction for anyone who might feel overwhelmed, depressed, or hopeless. Read on. Your day is about to get a lot brighter.


ROBERT IRVINE MAGAZINE: You wrote a column for Oprah.com “Getting to the bottom of your worrying—and how to let it go”. There are some encouraging thoughts in there, specifically the idea that daydreaming is an active form of creation that stops worry. But so often, especially in the west, we are taught that daydreaming is an unproductive waste of time, that it means nothing if it’s not backed by action. Would you agree that there are instances where daydreaming is unproductive?

GORDANA BIERNAT: I would never consider daydreaming an “unproductive waste of time”. The reason we are taught at an early age that daydreaming is useless is because the “authorities” that propagate this idea either have no clue, or even worse, don’t want us to know how powerful thoughts are and what role imagination plays in the creation of our everyday reality. This is exactly the kind of ignorance I want to minimize when I talk and write about the importance of knowing who we are and why we are here.

But before I answer your question I need to talk a bit about why it is important to “own” everything that occupies our minds and choose what we allow to “go on” in our heads. The way I see it, we are creating our reality with what we think, believe and feel to be true about it.

In a way, our reality acts like a ‘field’ outside of us, reflecting our deepest beliefs and thoughts about ourselves. There is no off or pause button. We are creating 24/7. And since this field works as a 3D mirror, it “obeys” everything we “tell” it to do. Consequently, our thoughts create perpetual “blueprints” of what, to us, seems like a “probable” future reality.
And this is the key to understanding why daydreams are not a waste of time even if we don’t always act on them.

From my perspective, worry and daydreaming are different aspects of the same thing—our creative imagination and thought process. And even if both worry and daydreaming come from the same source, they create very different results:

Worrying creates blueprints of what you do not want in your future.
Daydreaming creates blueprints of what you do want in your future.

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In a sense, daydreaming is like creating good ‘memories’ of something yet to come. When you daydream you deliberately tune your frequency in to your desires, by visualising inner pictures of your future self. This allows you to explore who you truly are and who you want to become.

Getting to know who you are is one of the most fundamental things of existence, so you see, exploring your daydreams is important even if you don’t act on every single daydream you have.

When you know who you are, your actions become more conscious and you become a more deliberate, conscious creator of your own reality. Daydreaming allows you to be in charge of how the story of your life unfolds.

So, to come back to the “unproductiveness” of daydreams and where we started our conversation…From a higher perspective, all daydreams are “productive” since they constitute a fundamental building block in the creation of our reality. The question is more about the quality of the daydream and where the root to the daydream is grounded. If a “daydream” is about hurting others or inflicting pain then it is grounded in ignorance and that, from my human point of view, it is unproductive.

RI: But if someone daydreams, and does not act, is it a waste?

GB: On a higher level of existence, nothing in our reality is a waste. Everything seems to fill a purpose, even if the reason sometimes can elude us. Most of the things, circumstances and relationships are brought forth in our life by synchronistic flow of energy which in turn is strongly affected by what we perpetually think, truly believe, and deeply feel.

I think your question is more about how we choose to label things. For instance, in an infinite and all-encompassing Universe, how do you define “waste”?

RI: Some believers in the Law of Attraction believe that strong, focused daydreaming forces us to subconsciously act. Do you believe that?

GB: Again, the more you know who YOU are, the easier it becomes to act on your daydreams and the more conscious you become in your interacting between your inner and outer reality. Nothing needs to be forced when you are tuned in to your dreams, goals, desires and wishes. Consciously choosing to act on your excitement will always put you on the path of least resistance to your desires, your true goals, and your dreams.

RI: You seem to be a firm believer in the Law of Attraction—that what we think about comes about. For someone who is open to the concept, it’s easy to embrace much of what you write about. But for someone who is brand new to the concept, much of what you have to say is quickly met with resistance. For someone coming to this concept for the first time, what is the first thing you would show/tell/ask them to do as a way of introducing them to the Law of Attraction?

GB: I would start with the fact that everything in the Universe is made of energy vibrating at different frequencies. So the only ‘thing’ differentiating me from you or sand from water is the vibrational frequency of that energy. In my understanding of how we create our own reality, energy and frequency are key points. But I wouldn’t call myself a firm believer of the Law of Attraction.

The way I see it, the creation of our reality is not so much a “law of attraction” pulling things to you, as it is a “law of corresponding (equal) frequency” – working through you via your thoughts, feelings and beliefs. To put it simply, life does not happen to you, it happens through you.

The law of corresponding frequency works regardless of whether you are deliberately thinking, randomly daydreaming, visualizing, worrying, dreaming, dreading, or wishing out loud. It mirrors your beliefs exactly and unconditionally. Your beliefs align your frequency to the matching frequency in the quantum field which then manifests your chosen vibration through you in 3D for you to see, feel, hear or taste.

The best analogy to how this thing works would be to imagine the physical reality “outside” of you acting like a mirror that unceasingly and unconditionally reflects your frequency back at you. If you frown the mirror frowns back. If you smile the mirror smiles back. In other words, what you put out is what you get back.

You are always sending a frequency with your thoughts, feelings and beliefs and the quantum field— permeating everything—is always responding to your specific frequency. Do you see why it is important to become more kind to yourself, to seek joy in everything you encounter and to see the best in others? Because what you consciously or subconsciously seek, you will find. Without exceptions. 

RI: You’ve written a lot about this—the idea that the universe is like a mirror, reflecting our desires back to us. This is an abstract concept that most people have to experience before they will believe. What made you a believer?

GB: Believer… that is a funny word, isn’t it? I mean, believing is perceiving, so in that sense, aren’t we all “believers”? An atheist is as much a believer as is a strongly religious person. The only difference is the object of the belief. “No God” or “A God”. But, both notions are still strong beliefs.

Anyway, to answer your question, while trying to fall asleep one night when I was 11 years
old, I had a revelation. I realized that, imagining the stars in my mind felt exactly the same as actually looking at them in the sky. Standing in my nightgown looking at the stars through my bedroom window I understood that, in essence, ‘inside’ and ‘outside’ are the same. I could ‘see’ the stars and the Universe, even with my eyes closed, because my thoughts and the fabric of the Universe are made of the same ‘stuff.’ What I experienced at that early age is a universal esoteric truth that changed me and the way I perceive myself.

I believe that we are all creators of our own Universe. Albeit most of us are unconscious of this tremendous power we possess. Every time someone “remembers” who they truly are they become the deliberate, conscious creator they came here to be.

RI: Many authors who deal with the Law of Attraction encourage their readers to engage only in positive thought that they can influence. To that end, watching the nightly news is out of the question. But from a young age, we’re taught that staying abreast of current events is a civic duty. How does one maintain their civic duty without reading or watching the news?

GB: First of all you must ask yourself who decides what the “news” are and why the positive things happening in the world, are not considered to be real “news”. Why and to whom is it important to maintain the high level of stress and fear? If you were to stop watching the nightly “news” for a week, the world would still be there and not much would have actually happened in your reality.

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Secondly you must ask why civic duty is so strongly connected to being updated with conventional “news”? Habitually watching the nightly “news” on TV and taking everything the corporate media present as “facts”, is not the same as being updated on the situation of the world, or your country, or even your city. If you really want to know what’s going on, you have to be more selective in what you allow to fester in your mind as “truths”, “facts” and “proofs”, by actively seeking alternative sources of information. Otherwise your responsibility as a conscious citizen, trying to maintain your “civic duty”, can easily turn into a mindless co-creation of a reality you do not want to create. You must start to: Think for yourself, trust your intuition, and above all be courageous enough to ask uncomfortable questions and smart enough to look for answers elsewhere.

RI: How can one utilize thoughts to help influence his or her community in a positive way?

GB: Since you are a co-creator of this reality, the best way to contribute to the whole is by taking care of your own frequency. Start by being aware of what you are allowing to manifest through you into this reality. Because make no mistake:

What we THINK – we BECOME.
Our thoughts CREATE us.

What we DO – we ARE.
Our actions DEFINE us.

This is how I take care of my frequency: Put your hand on your heart and allow yourself to connect to your true identity. Repeat after me:
I am the light in the darkness.
I am the love in the hate.
I am the calmness in the storm.
I am the courage in the fear.

RI: How can one apply the Law of Attraction to influence their own health or lose weight? Is that possible?

GB: In western society, we tend to believe that we have a soul, when in fact it is the other way around. You don’t have a soul. Your soul has a body. You might ask, “What’s the difference?” Well, seen from a higher vantage point, this fact makes your soul primary and your body secondary. Let me put it another way:
Your body does not determine the state of you.
YOU determine the state of your body.

While consciousness or your soul is your entire being (thoughts, feelings, intuition and will) your body is the vehicle your soul uses to explore physical reality. The only difference between your soul and your body is the vibrational speed of the energy. In a slowed down frequency, your soul is your body. Actually your body is the focus point where soul-consciousness turns into body-matter. Regardless of its size, shape or form your body is actually an expression of who YOU think and subconsciously believe you are. Basically what this means is, that your body is shaped by your consciousness. So, it is not just possible, it is certain that your thoughts affect your health and your ability to lose weight.

Consider this; what you think, say and do influence two things in your reality. Your body and your environment. Your thoughts, words and feelings carry energy that has magical properties. What you think, speak and feel creates inner motion setting off alchemical fireworks in your body affecting your perception of yourself and your body. Every thought or word is like a program outlining a blueprint of what you believe to be true about yourself and your body.

Your body is a living organism at your service 24/7. It responds to the frequency of your thoughts and emotions and it will do anything you ask of it. It reads your mind, feels your heart and keeps you alive. If you accept the fact that your body is the physical expression of your soul, then shouldn’t you listen to your body’s innate wisdom? Every discomfort is a stop sign saying, “Change!” Don’t ignore it. Don’t silence this inner voice with food. Trust your body and initiate a loving relationship with every part of it. Start being observant of what you say and what you believe about yourself and your body.

Promise yourself to never, ever put yourself down!
Promise yourself to speak kindly to yourself and about yourself.
Promise yourself to be who you truly are with integrity and respect.

Honor your body, because its source is infinite, eternal and divine. When you start doing this, taking care of your health and weight becomes so much easier.

RI: What do you believe the universe is? You talk a lot about the source. What is the source?

GB: I believe that everything is made of consciousness exploring itself through me, you, through every single living being in nature, through the stars, through the universe…for the joy of imagining, creating, and exploring new aspects of itself. Paradoxically the source is to be found “inside” and “outside” at the same time.

RI: What advice do you have for the reader who is stuck? Someone who is in a job they don’t like, can’t lose the weight they need to, always seems to lack time to do what they want, etc?

GB: To accept something and suffer is to become a victim and to subconsciously believe that you have no power. To accept that something is AS IT IS, then either let it go, say no, or change it, is to take your power back. Change is often a silent inside job that requires patience and courage. Courage to be yourself. Courage to resist negativity. Courage to go beyond your boundaries. Courage to take responsibility for your own life. In reality, we are only as powerless as we think we are. Start telling yourself a different story of strength and joy and watch your life transform. There are no mistakes, only feedback.

CHANGE what you can.
Keep what you LOVE.
LET GO of the rest.

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